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mamboni 10-12-2006 09:52 AM

What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
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You're driving to work in the city - just another day - until you see this. What would you do?

Anty Ep 10-12-2006 10:04 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
turn it around and go the other way?

cb&julie 10-12-2006 10:33 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
If what you saw looked like your picture, then you'd probably have already eaten the mushrooms...:cheerful:

Seriously though, drive AWAY from nuclear explosions

buff01 10-12-2006 10:37 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
turn around, and go immediately home. load up the truck with my guns & ammo, food, and clothing. Then go to the nearest supermarket and immediately buy a couple thousand in nonperishable food and water on my credit card, load that into the truck. Then head for my parent's place in the mountains...

buff01 10-12-2006 10:39 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
btw, it looks like the terrorist scum nuked tacoma!

Big_Rob 10-12-2006 10:41 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
If you saw the inital blast you would be blinded. Other than that ur ****ed by radiation poisoning.

Anty Ep 10-12-2006 10:42 AM

mamboni posted this pic diff thread-- wha bou dis?
 
http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1160663377

Atahualpa 10-12-2006 10:49 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I keep my motorhome ready to go, except for food and water. I would grab my family and quickly load up the preps and hit the road in the opposite direction.

sam 10-12-2006 12:13 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Dat shroom doone look pertically nookler,
but gobble some potassium iodate tabs?

-Justin Case

goldbug 10-12-2006 12:25 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Immediately buy gold, and stock in Haliburton?

Goldhedge 10-12-2006 12:32 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
In the service, if you saw the flash,(hopefully, you weren't looking at it) they told us to drop flat to the ground and cover face with hands. Don't jump into that fox hole 2 feet away because you wouldn't make it.

I suspect that the height of that shroom cloud means that a little time passed before you saw it? You probably have enough time to bend over, stick your head between your legs, and kiss yer ass goodbye.

mamboni 10-12-2006 12:33 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goldbug (Post 385211)
Immediately buy gold, and stock in Haliburton?


Still goldbuggering right on cue!
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

REV127 10-12-2006 01:02 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I would drop face down on the ground with the top of my head towards the source of the flash and lay on my rifle. Then I wouldn't get up until somebody called "all clear!" because the debris may still be falling. I'd be very careful not to get up if I heard somebody say something similar but different, like "all queer!"

Alternatively, if I was in a trench or some other hole in the ground I would curl up into a fetal position on my back so my arms and legs could protect me from the debris.

(I'm almost certain these responses were computer generated. Somebody has a simulator somewhere that shows 3% fewer casualties when troops are commanded to perform ridiculous actions due to an overlooked glitch in the physics model. I similarly believe that the OICW is an outgrowth from the miserable experiences of someone with an overgrown ego and massive inferiority complex trying to compete in a first person perspective shooter on a public server populated by 13 year olds who never play outside anymore.)

electric-amish 10-12-2006 01:26 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Start voting Libertarian.

E-A

Pook 10-12-2006 01:45 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Go home and stay inside for a few days to avoid contact with radioactive dust. Block up the cracks under the door etc.

I'm not sure if we would leave town later-depends on the conditions I guess.

keehah 10-12-2006 01:47 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Whatever you do don't get in your car and try to drive out of Seattle. Read last year that city of Seattle did some disaster planning for a nuclear event and they figured many would want to get out of the city and head to the mountains-where (assuming most were unprepaired) they would be harder to police, feed, shelter, etc, as well as this is the direction of fallout (kind of hard to drive west from Seattle).

So the plans for the city of Seattle for such an event were (still are?) to barricade the routes out of town for civilians.

So do what Pook says, and get some concrete, metal or soil between you and the outside (more than wood house walls).

REV127 10-12-2006 02:08 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Bwahahaha! Electric Amish gets my vote, anyway! :haha:

teedub31 10-12-2006 02:10 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
If you don't know what to do by now, I suggest that you visit:

www.KI4U.com

Free nuke disaster planning guide. Some very insightfull information.

My 2 cents unless you are completely unprepaired, running is probably the worst thing to do. Way to many variables that are out of your control that would most likely be your demise. Seek Shelter,Water and Food in that order and hunker down for a couple of days. 99% of the deadly radiation will have decayed in less then 2 days and will become safe enough for you to then re-establish a more detailed plan of dealing with your family.

goldsilverman 05-03-2008 03:33 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Where is everyones source for Potassium iodate and NBC suits and gas masks?

Twisted Avatar 05-03-2008 03:47 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 385101)
turn around, and go immediately home. load up the truck with my guns & ammo, food, and clothing. Then go to the nearest supermarket and immediately buy a couple thousand in nonperishable food and water on my credit card, load that into the truck. Then head for my parent's place in the mountains...




+1.......

Except I dont have parent house to run so I would try to radioproof my home as best as possible with duct tape along the vents and run lots of water in the tubs (contimnation free) and lay low with guns on my chest for a few days.


T

Dave 05-03-2008 04:32 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goldsilverman (Post 1089217)
Where is everyones source for Potassium iodate and NBC suits and gas masks?

KI can be found at: http://www.ki4u.com/

NBC suits and masks can be found at: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/

I am sure there are many other sources but those are two I have used.

Dave

EE_ 05-03-2008 04:33 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I'd figure this is the end, run over to the hot neighbor's house I've always been lusting over and have my way with her, twice!
Hey, you asked!

DogFarm 05-03-2008 04:36 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 385332)
If you don't know what to do by now, I suggest that you visit:

www.KI4U.com

Free nuke disaster planning guide. Some very insightfull information.

My 2 cents unless you are completely unprepaired, running is probably the worst thing to do. Way to many variables that are out of your control that would most likely be your demise. Seek Shelter,Water and Food in that order and hunker down for a couple of days. 99% of the deadly radiation will have decayed in less then 2 days and will become safe enough for you to then re-establish a more detailed plan of dealing with your family.

this is the correct answer assuming you survive the initial blast. better if you can hunker down for a week with as much soil, sand, concrete, etc., between you and the radiation. do not go outside. the radiation will cook you very quickly in the open air or your car.

Dave 05-03-2008 04:45 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 385332)
If you don't know what to do by now, I suggest that you visit:

www.KI4U.com

Free nuke disaster planning guide. Some very insightfull information.

My 2 cents unless you are completely unprepaired, running is probably the worst thing to do. Way to many variables that are out of your control that would most likely be your demise. Seek Shelter,Water and Food in that order and hunker down for a couple of days. 99% of the deadly radiation will have decayed in less then 2 days and will become safe enough for you to then re-establish a more detailed plan of dealing with your family.

The site you linked above has great information.

There are also several other sites on there with similar types of information.

Here is one: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=d...rvival#figures

Most people think you should flee a blast zone but nothing could be further from the truth as you pointed out above.

You should be prepared to hunker down for two to four weeks taking adequate precautions to shelter yourself and familiar members from the fallout which is the real killer in a blast. Since most targets are air blast for maximum impact and blast radius it reduces the amount of radioactive fallout with the exception of ground burst on hardened military targets. These will produce the most fallout so you want to be sure NOT to be downwind from them which is usually East of a target based on our typical weather patterns.

To many considerations to post on but you can find a wealth of knowledge out there about this. Try googling the phrase "how to survive thermal nuclear war" or "how to survive nuclear fallout".

Basically, your keys to survival are ample water, food, and proper shelter until you can move to better grounds.

Dave

Twisted Avatar 05-03-2008 04:55 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1089273)
I'd figure this is the end, run over to the hot neighbor's house I've always been lusting over and have my way with her, twice!
Hey, you asked!


I almost but a gut.....you have to keep it serious!!

T

90%RealMoney 05-03-2008 04:55 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I'd stare straight at it, and go for the free face lift. If that worked, THEN I'd go over to the YOUNGER, HOT neighbors house, ask Her if She would like to come upstairs and see my etchings, er, PREPS!

Lackluster 05-03-2008 05:37 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I wish Mamboni hadn't gotten himself banned. He was a real quality poster here.

EE_ 05-03-2008 05:41 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1089290)
I'd stare straight at it, and go for the free face lift. If that worked, THEN I'd go over to the YOUNGER, HOT neighbors house, ask Her if She would like to come upstairs and see my etchings, er, PREPS!

See now you're thinking ahead!
Just stay away from my hot neighbor...she's mine! Mu ha ha!
In an end game scenario what really has value?
I want to die with a smile on my face!

Twisted Avatar 05-03-2008 06:28 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1089327)
See now you're thinking ahead!
Just stay away from my hot neighbor...she's mine! Mu ha ha!
In an end game scenario what really has value?
I want to die with a smile on my face!



Oh lordy we are gonna go back to barter now??? preps for some 'quality time"?

Man......who would have thunk it??


T

GOLD DUCK 05-03-2008 07:20 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
QWAK,Well most likely I would go back to the DUCK NEST -- fire up the HOT TUB and wile it was heating get out my RADIATION detector and put a new battery in it and check out what the rad rate is. Then get out my surpluss HASMAT suit and boots and gas mask and install a new filter canister.

I would then load a nice big bowl of home grown,put on an old Dylan CD and get in the hot tub -- FIRE up the bowl and ponder on Dylan singing "Masters of WAR" wile I watched the PURPLE GLOW and expecting a SPECTACULAR SUN SET!:hahaha::yes:

I got MY S**T together as best I can and by then it would be FAR too late to start trying to get "IT" together. :thinkey:

the DUCK


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DogFarm 05-03-2008 07:22 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK (Post 1089401)
QWAK,Well most likely I would go back to the DUCK NEST -- fire up the HOT TUB and wile it was heating get out my RADIATION detector and put a new battery in it and check out what the rad rate is. Then get out my surpluss HASMAT suit and boots and gas mask and install a new filter canister.

I would then load a nice big bowl of home grown,put on an old Dylan CD and get in the hot tub -- FIRE up the bowl and ponder on Dylan singing "Masters of WAR" wile I watched the PURPLE GLOW and expecting a SPECTACULAR SUN SET!:hahaha::yes:

I got MY S**T together as best I can and by then it would be FAR too late to start trying to get "IT" together. :thinkey:

the DUCK


...because the water slows down the absorbtion rate of the gamma rays, right? that's a damn good idea if you don't have time to 3 feet of sand in front of your house.

immanti 05-03-2008 07:24 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
"Duck and cover!" of course.

:D




(Can't believe the DUCK didn't say that.)

GOLD DUCK 05-03-2008 08:23 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogFarm (Post 1089403)
...because the water slows down the absorbtion rate of the gamma rays, right? that's a damn good idea if you don't have time to 3 feet of sand in front of your house.

QWAK,dogFarm,It took a long time but I removed over 24" of dirt and rock down to bed rock in the hot tub room so from inside the tub you got you look UP to look out. The only place safer is if I pump the hand dug well dry and go down there 16'+ in solid sand stone but it is always muddy at the bottom.

I got the angle iron frame built in the shape and dementions of the great pirimid to go over the well. When finished I plan to use chicken wire and hardware cloth with cement trowled over it for a hard shell and just a small door to get in.

I figure it will be a good place to MEDITATE and focus my energy.:wink:

the DUCK

CattleRancher 05-03-2008 08:40 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Depressing thought really. I won't see the flash where I am, if there ever is one, because I will be in it. However, if another metropolitan area is hit many hundreds of miles to the east, I could still bug out west. If the cloud is hundreds of miles to the west, I think I would have to hunker down for a couple of weeks because I would not want to be driving into any fallout.

Still then, hunkering down is not the best of plans because if there is nuclear war, my area still gets hit, and I'm toast, or rather evaporated, anyway. I don't have the 1950's style underground fallout shelter.

Heimdhal 05-03-2008 09:04 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Im gonna go out side and hope the blast hits me quickly. Seriously. If its an airburst, then it was most certainly sent by some foreign, large, advanced military force(or a false flag from the us) If its a groun burst, half the damn state will die from teh fall out in the first week alone with prevailing winds and chances are its either a false flag or "real" terrorist. Either way, either event would signal the start of the NWO, the loss of any hope of countering, total martial law and millions dead, hundreds of millions physicaly deformed for life and a world like none have seen before.

Im all for surviving and what not, but seriously, there is a point where it just isnt worth it. Surviving for the sake of surviving is hardly a worthy cause and I would much sooner slip into the next world than stay in one as described above.

Turtle Man 05-03-2008 09:38 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 385254)
(I'm almost certain these responses were computer generated. Somebody has a simulator somewhere that shows 3% fewer casualties when troops are commanded to perform ridiculous actions due to an overlooked glitch in the physics model. I similarly believe that the OICW is an outgrowth from the miserable experiences of someone with an overgrown ego and massive inferiority complex trying to compete in a first person perspective shooter on a public server populated by 13 year olds who never play outside anymore.)

I thought this was good to quote.

Ash_Williams 05-03-2008 10:11 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I would drive straight toward the cloud - they're not gonna blow it up twice, right?

StackerKen 05-04-2008 10:42 AM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
I know there are many here that are not Bible believers, However,
The Bible does say the world will be destroyed by fire....

How'd they know bout Nuclear weapons way back then?


Im 350 miles from L.A. and bout the same from San Francisco....
I don't think they would hit Fresno....Unless they want to wipe out the food supply

So it may be a slow death for me...Or with my luck , I will survive and have to deal with all the SHTF

Maddie 05-04-2008 02:11 PM

Re: What if you saw a mushroom on the horizon?
 
Well, if I'm on my way to work and I see that, then I know either they hit Atlanta, and I'm about to die in the firestorm, or they have really bad aim and hit somewhere on the other side of it, which would be bad for my bug-out location but good for me, as prevailing winds almost always blow in a direction that would blow the fallout away from me.

Presuming I'm not instantly combusted or engulfed in flames, I would likely be close enough for EMP to knock out all the vehicles on the road. I'd put on my 3M particle mask, which might help cut down a tiny bit on the irradiated dust particles I inhale (I don't carry my NBC mask; the heat in the truck in the summer would destroy the rubber), cover every inch of myself with the clothes in my truck or in my get-home bag, throw the tarp in my truck over my head, grab my 3-day get-home bag, and make a run for the nearest dry culvert or underpass, of which there are many on my way. Then I'd carefully change the clothes for ones in my bag, which are probably also irradiated, but maybe not quite as much. I have a Nuke-Alert in my purse, which might give me some idea of how irradiated I'm getting unless it's overwhelmed by the amount of radiation (again, I'm hoping the usual prevailing winds are blowing the stuff away from me). I have Iostat in the bug-out bag, but I doubt I'd take it. It makes most people vomit violently from what I understand, and violent vomiting isn't conducive to running for cover, and if it's summer in Atlanta, I want to stay as hydrated as possible. Also, I'm 46 and it usually takes thyroid cancer from radiation decades to develop, so I might just take my chances. I might give it to the other people who are bound to be hiding under the overpass or in the culvert with me. The dirt is all clay here, so it would be possible to filter water through it to cut down on the radiation in the water, and I have a good water purifier in each bug-out bag to get rid of the nasty stuff in the dirt, but all that would take some time, and if it's summer, it's going to be hot. Then I'd entertain myself whining about how I always knew my stupid job would be the death of me and how I wished I'd just called in sick that day.

At any rate, I'd stay holed up for at least 3 days, then stay covered up and head for home, which is within a couple hours' walking distance. If my home hasn't blown up from a ruptured gas main, I'd put on my NBC gear (which I don't carry in my trucks), turn off my gas and my neighbors' gas, then head to my basement where I'd hole up (there's dirt on the other side of two of the outside basement walls, including the Atlanta side) with my irradiated animals. I'd say good-bye to my hair and eyebrows, load the guns, haul out the geiger counter and dosimeters, and see how bad it is, if my body isn't already telling me (actually, I'd spend the next few hours rereading the instruction books for the geiger counter because for some reason that information just won't stick). Several days having passed, I don't know if there would be any point in putting together a bunker; if I made it this far, most of the radiation went the other direction, and the basement might be enough. All my food and supplies are down there.

As close as I am to the city, however, I don't think there's any real chance I'd make it unless they didn't actually hit the city. We're about 7.5 miles from downtown. Seeing a mushroom cloud that close from one's vehicle while enroute somewhere just doesn't seem like it could have a good ending, but I'd keep reminding myself that Steve Guttenberg made it in that stupid movie The Day After. If Guttenberg can do it, so can I! Lol! Who really needs eyebrows anyway?

budfox 05-04-2008 02:25 PM

Re: mamboni posted this pic diff thread-- wha bou dis?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 385106)

What is that, a giant Turd?


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